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scribblemyname ([personal profile] scribblemyname) wrote2014-05-13 01:37 pm

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I’m one fanwork away from a bingo and futurefic is driving me crazy.

[identity profile] thecatisacritic.livejournal.com 2014-05-15 07:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I know you promised to keep working on it after the break you needed for your move. I thought that was enough to where I wouldn't do what I usually do, but it wasn't.

With me, writing is like an express train. It goes full steam until it reaches it's destination. It may slow down at times and it may switch tracks, but if it stops, it stops hard, explodes in a wreck that is rarely able to be cleared. It's ugly. There are fatalities.

After something like that, I have to take a step back and deal with the damage. I have to accept the loss. When I shelve something, I know I may never come back to it and even if I do, it will never be the same. I don't find my way back in easily, and that is why most of my sequels fail.

You did also say that you were unhappy with the directions both stories were going, and you wanted that to change. So... I put them on the shelf. I said goodbye. I forced myself to cut the emotional tether because I could not handle leaving them in that state of "maybe someday." Mentally, I can't handle that. It was too much, the up-yo of thinking it would get worked on and then having days and weeks and months would go by with nothing. I told myself patience first, and then I had to stop believing in it at all because I couldn't let myself try and hope for it. It was too hard when it didn't happen.

I finally cut it off during this last hiatus, accepted the death, and I am really not sure I can go back again. I'd need to know we were making steady progress again before I'd allow myself to touch it. I really love Alik and the story, but I can't do the starts and stops without some sometimes severe mental fallout, and that is why I'm almost more willing to let them die than start this all over again.

You still seem very busy and I'd rather not resume unless you really have the time for it.

I don't think we would have realized how many conflicts we had in our varied processes without trying to write first, and back when we started, we really did think we were on the same page.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-15 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
The trouble is, knowing me, I'll want to. I'll want to go just a full steam as I did before. We both know that doesn't work. I take the story in directions you don't like and you have so many other commitments that make my excessive output overwhelming and unwanted. That's why I'm saying we need to be at a place where our time committed to the project is equal or as close to it as it can be or it will just fall apart again.

[identity profile] thecatisacritic.livejournal.com 2014-05-15 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I am not sure why the site logged me out earlier. I didn't realize it had, so that anonymous reply, that was me. Must have been the internet on my phone at work being crappy.

I should add that I know that the demands on your time are greater than the ones on mine, and I understand that. I'm not trying to tell you that you have to do as much for the stories as I do because I know I'm faster and rather insane, but I really have come to resent the time you spend on fanfiction, and though I told myself I'd be patient and that it was a part of your process, I do not want to compete with that to do this story, and I don't like the way I feel about it. I'm not sure how to remedy that because I can't ask you to give up a part of your process. I just don't feel like I can compete with everything else... and I don't want to. I'd rather let the stories go than be a naggy clingy cowriter, but I feel that's all I am anymore.

[identity profile] thecatisacritic.livejournal.com 2014-05-16 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
I know that fanfiction is your coping mechanism, and I guess I should have called it that instead of your process. I know that you need it, and I wasn't really trying to say that you should or had to give it up. I just found myself feeling like what we were doing with the collaboration was not as important as these fanfiction challenges you signed up for, and it was bothering me, even though I tried not to let it because it wasn't really anything I had a right to be concerned about. I didn't understand that it was the process, the editing that was the issue. It really did feel at times like everything else was more important than the collaboration and that some of the stuff you were signing up for were might have been ways of avoiding it. I figured I was being unreasonable, but I couldn't seem to stop because I was frustrated with the lack of progress, feeling stymied, and insecure.

Frankly, I still am insecure about it.

I understand the move not being complete. The one I helped my friend with is far from done right now, too.

I have felt before, and still kind of do, that I would rather you not tell me you're working on anything or say that it might be coming. I do get my hopes up, and then things stall out and I get down. It's just easier not to know or expect anything.

I think you still have too much going on to where we should do anything with the stories. I'd rather wait until you were better/clear than add any stress. That's why I said we should wait until you had more time.

And... It bothers me to have you say that you don't care if I do something to the story or not. Why bother if you don't care? Don't do it if you don't care. Do something you care about.

[identity profile] thecatisacritic.livejournal.com 2014-05-16 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think that I have any quotes or lyrics that fit the fic we were discussing, though I do have a few things that I've been wanting to either pass along or use myself if I could get past my own writing issues.

I did misunderstand that. I guess I feel that when I'm doing something for someone I want to include them in it, and if it is a collaborative effort, I figure it's important to include the other person.

I have a similar need to write, but I did acquire an unpleasant feeling of needing to share the writing. I haven't been proud of that, and I'm working on changing it. It used to be enough just to write, and I want that back.

I really didn't understand the "I don't care" in that sense. It sounded like you were doing it for the wrong reasons, and I really didn't want that.

I wasn't trying to be difficult about it, and I know I didn't explain myself very well with a lot of that, but I was trying to make it easier and also clear some of the air with stuff I hadn't felt brave enough to voice some of that, especially since some of it was stuff I didn't have a right to be upset over.

[identity profile] thecatisacritic.livejournal.com 2014-05-16 05:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I understand. It is very much like that with me and my sisters (in fact, if I didn't ignore all the behavior they have that I disagree with, well... I wouldn't be able to talk to any of them, *sigh*)

I'm not proud of the way I reacted to the situation. I just have a very hard time stopping my train, and when you had to stop, I really wasn't ready to, so everything else that was "in the way" was frustrating. I am one of those people that tends to "slow boil" and then everything that was bothering me, however insignificant, can come up at once and seem so much worse than it is because it's combined, and I try very hard not to let myself give into that, but I do sometimes. And I was trying to forestall more of that behavior from myself by asking to wait until there was more time because I didn't want to start down that path again.

I used to try and explain all my issues up front when I met people, so that they would know why I was the mess that I was. I found, though, that they didn't understand even when I did that, and so I stopped explaining and only opened up to a few people after that. It's hard to find the right balance of what to tell and what not to tell, and I think it's harder on the internet because there's only text boxes to do it in, no facial expressions or voice inflections and because we only know what each person we interact with is willing/able to share so we don't know enough. It can lead to plenty of misunderstandings. My friend and I actually had to agree not to text/chat for certain conversations because we both got upset by them because it was just text.

I didn't mean to suggest that you shouldn't post about your days and what you're doing. In fact, it was kind of worrisome that you didn't. I know I overreacted to the reading ones in the past (that is a whole other part of my insanity) and again, not proud of that, but when I said I didn't want to know that you were working on stuff, it was only regarding the stuff we were doing together. It was me not wanting to get my hopes up about that story again, not wanting to restart the train. I don't think you should have to censor your posts for me, and I don't want you to. I'm sorry that wasn't clearer. I just found that when you'd say "I might have some of this in a few days," I'd try not to get excited, fail, and get frustrated again when the few days passed and there wasn't anything. I haven't been able to fix that, which was why I said I thought I'd do better if I didn't know it was coming at all.

You are free to post what you want about your activities. Really.